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Stock Boat Design Info...

Kasten Marine Design, Inc.
Copyright 2000 - 2007 Michael Kasten
Updated 18 March 2007

The following paragraphs are intended to:

        • Explain how a stock design is created;
        • Show how the cost of a stock design is determined;
        • Briefly outline what we offer along with the purchase of a stock boat design.

 

How Are Our Stock Designs Created...?

Each of our stock boat designs originally was developed as a new custom yacht design to suit a specific set of requirements.  In other words, each of them were originally created as a custom design solution for a specific client. Unless a client prefers to make advance arrangements to own the exclusive rights to a new design, all our custom yacht designs are subsequently offered as Stock Boat Building Plans.

Among the collection of yacht designs on these web pages you may discover a Stock Design that will suit your requirements as-is, or that may be suitable with a few modifications.  That is precisely why we have offered these designs.  It is a chance to obtain a complete existing vessel design at a very favorable cost. 

For the best introduction to the boat plans we have made available, please review our "Sail Boats" and "Power Boats" pages.  Most of the designs you'll find there are available as Stock Plans.  Complete information about ordering Stock Boat Plans will be found on our Plans List page. 

If a Stock Design only partially suits your requirements, we can make whatever adaptations are needed.  If substantial revisions are being considered, then it may turn out that a new Custom Design will be just as easily accomplished.  After all, the cost of creating a new Custom Design is not at all a large percentage of the cost of a new vessel.  In fact, it may come as a surprise that the cost to develop a new Custom Boat Design is usually less than half that of paying a yacht broker's fee simply to purchase a new or pre-existing yacht. 

In terms of the true cost of ownership, of much greater importance is whether the vessel that gets built does in fact suit your needs, both now and in the future.  If it turns out that creating a new design is of interest, please see our web page on "Custom Design" for more information.

You may also want to review our various "Prototype" designs, among which there may be good inspiration for creating a new design, or even a new vessel type.  If one of the prototypes turns out to be suitable as-is, we can easily develop it into a completed yacht design.  Good examples of this kind of possibility are the 50' ketch Sonja or the 54' power yacht Greatheart.

 

Plans Ordering Options

Our Stock Designs are offered in four stages, as follows:

    • Study Drawings: These are the first few sheets of the actual Building Plans and include the Sail Plan or Exterior Profile Drawing and the Interior Profile and Arrangement Drawing. In order to preliminarily review a stock design, the Study Drawings are a good place to start. Our Study Drawings also make great wall art...!  
    • Estimating Plans: These consist of the Study Drawings plus the Structural Profile & Arrangement Drawing, the Vessel Specification, and the Equipment List.  For a much more complete look at any of our designs, in particular if you wish to submit the design to a selection of builders for a construction quote, the Estimating Plans set will be of greater interest.
    • Building Plans: All the design drawings and documents necessary for construction of the yacht. For actual construction, the Building Plans will be required. 
    • NC Cutting Files:  A number of our Stock Designs in metal have been developed for computer cutting of the metal structure.  "NC" just means 'numerically controlled' cutting.   NC Cutting Files allow a "boat kit" to be pre-cut by a computer driven plasma torch, or water jet, or router.  NC Cutting Files are entirely optional, however they are an enormous aid to construction, both for first time builders as well as professional builders.

Stock Plans prices are primarily related to vessel size, but are also related to the quantity of detail originally developed for the design in question.  You will find a complete price list for our available boat plans as well as plans ordering information on our Plans List Page.  

 

What Are Estimating Plans...?

 In order to be able to determine a 'completed vessel' cost or even a 'power-away' cost, there must necessarily be a well defined plan.  In other words, the owner must present sufficient information to the builder so that the builder can actually sharpen their pencil and provide a firm quote for construction.

At the very least the builder must be provided with what we call an "Estimating Plans" package.  This consists of the first few drawings of the actual "Building Plans" plus a few preliminary design documents, as follows:

Drawings: 

    • Exterior Profile / Sail Plan
    • Interior Profile and Arrangement
    • Structural Profile and Arrangement

Documents: 

    • Vessel Specification
    • Structural Scantlings List
    • Surface Areas
    • Structural Weights
    • Equipment List
    • Designer Cover Letter to Owner
    • Designer Cover Letter to Builder
    • Template Owner Cover Letter to Builder

The Equipment List includes all the various mechanical and electrical equipment items.  The Vessel Specification outlines the intent of the design, gives the vessel's proposed scantlings, construction materials for the hull and the interior joinery, the proposed paint schedule, and a preliminary indication of power, range, tankage, performance and stability. 

With the Estimating Plans, Vessel Specification and Equipment List in hand, one can then approach builders to inquire about actual construction costs.

 

Finding a Builder...

We are always able to make builder recommendations, however we do not provide builder lists or any builder contact information until an Estimating Plans set has been purchased.  Why...? 

Builders will have very little to offer in way of pricing until they are presented with Estimating Plans as described above.  Only with these drawings and documents will they be able to create an accurate construction estimate.

    • If a builder is not presented with a completed concept, they may simply present an alternative design or possibly a boat they have in production, which may be quite different from the design the owner had envisioned.
    • Without complete plans and documents a builder's only other option is to provide an incomplete estimate - one that is likely to be substantially different when it comes time to build the boat. 
    • Our builder recommendations are based on a number of considerations: 
        • The prospective boat owner's requirements
        • The type of vessel being considered
        • The anticipated level of completion
        • The degree of finish that is expected; etc.

In other words, a builder can't provide a meaningful quote without the right information, without which they will be in the unfortunate position of attempting to apply a fudge factor to a variable that's been based on an assumption about an unknown.  Thus they can only end up with... an unknown!

Further, our builder recommendations will be made on the basis of their suitability to the project being considered.  Why is this 'suitability' consideration important...?

  • Some builders prefer to only build the metal hull / deck / cabin structures, while others prefer to build the whole boat. 
  • Some can build only up to a certain size of boat.
  • Some do not want to fool with power boats, nor others with sail boats.
  • Some will be suited to providing the owner's specified level of finish, and so forth. 

Essentially, for every design there will be several qualified builders, and there will be others that are neither suited to the project nor possibly even interested. 

So yes we are pleased to make builder recommendations whenever possible, however we will do so only when we have also supplied the prospective boat owner with sufficient information for those builders to determine construction costs in the form of actual Estimating Plans.

In this way an owner will not be wasting their own time.  Just as importantly, they will not be wasting the builders time...!

 

What's Included With Building Plans...?

 A stock Building Plans Set will usually consist of the following drawings and documents.  Smaller vessels may be less detailed; larger vessels more detailed.

Larger vessels may have multiple sheets for any of the above, while smaller vessels may have many details combined into single sheets.  In some cases, a design may have been more thoroughly detailed at the request of the original client, in which case there will be more detail - ordinarily reflected in the cost of the stock plans set.  To review an outline of the usual design calculations available with our stock and custom designs please see our article on Essential Design Data.

 

Optional Services

In all cases, we can provide additional services on request, possibly including one or more of the following:

    • Design Revisions to Suit
    • Sailing Performance Polar Diagram
    • System Schematics
    • System Layout Drawings
    • NC Cutting Files
    • Inspections During Construction
    • Certifications & Analyses for Commercial Registry
    • Documentation for CE Marking Within the EU

If the original client has taken advantage of computerized pre-cutting for any given design, then those NC Cutting files are made available for re-use.  If NC cutting files have not yet been developed for any particular stock design, they can easily be created.

Our detailed NC cut files include all internal structure and plating for the hull, deck, and cabins.  Internal structure includes frames with cutouts for longitudinals, stem / keelson, engine beds, tank faces and lids, bulkheads, rudder components, keel foil components.  All plating is defined, complete with marking lines for alignment and for cut out of the various openings.

Please see our web pages on NC Cutting to review the process of creating NC cutting files, and also to find out about the potential savings that NC cut parts make possible during construction.

 

Changes to a Stock Design

Before considering changes to any stock design, it is best to consult with the designer of the boat.  Small changes to interior accommodations or 'style' from one owner to the next are to be expected, and are not usually any cause for re-design, re-evaluation or new drawings.

On the other hand, larger changes that involve the locations of tanks; engine; masts; sail area; engine power; or changes to any of the vessel's scantlings; hull shape; decks; or superstructures will always require the expertise and approval of the designer of the vessel.  Why is this...?  Any of these latter changes will have an affect on one or more of the vessel's stability; its structure; its safety; or its performance, therefore they must necessarily involve the designer of the vessel in order that all elements be properly integrated into a final design.

The cost of changes made to any of our designs is charged for on an hourly basis.  If one of our designs is appealing for your requirements, but needs a little something... we'll be pleased to provide our usual written Design Proposal for that work.

 

A "Semi-Stock" Design...?

Once in a while I am asked to provide a set of drawings for as little cost as possible, even to the point of requesting that I work out only a "faired set of lines."

While that concept may at first seem appealing, it is not at all a good path to follow.  In order for any vessel to be considered safe and suitable for construction, there are many other facets of the design that must be considered and integrated into the final result.  In other words, the design process cannot be broken down into separate parts that can stand alone.  The design process as an integrated whole is very much a requirement.

For example, in order to assure adequate structure, stability, performance, seaworthiness and comfort, our goals with each design are to assure:

  • Suitability to the owner's requirements and to the intended service.
  • An interior and on-deck layout per the owner's requirements.
  • A pleasing aesthetic, longevity and ease of maintenance. 
  • Sensibility of structure for the sake of ease of construction.
  • A functional machinery and equipment layout.
  • A distribution of weights that will provide correct trim and adequate stability.
  • Performance suited to the expectations of the vessel type.
  • Structure according to the ABS, Lloyds, DNV, or GL scantling rules as is appropriate to the vessel's structure or location.
  • Power vessel stability per International Maritime Organization criteria for ocean service.
  • Sailing vessel stability per the European Union Recreational Craft Directive for ocean service.
  • For passenger vessels, stability and safety per the US Code of Federal Regulations according to the service category required, or according to other locally applicable criteria.

From the above we can begin to see that when properly done, a completed yacht design involves no small amount work...!  With luck, it will also be apparent that we cannot possibly extract one or more of the above ingredients, and still hope to have a successful result. 

While certainly there is cost involved in order to develop a new yacht design, we must consider the much greater cost that would be incurred by building a half baked design that fails to meet one or more of the above criteria...   In other words, the whole design process has been developed specifically in order to assure success with the vessel that gets built.

Further, the cost of new design is quite predictable.  When we begin any new design work we provide a thorough estimate in the form of our usual written Design Proposal.  If our proposal is acceptable, the design work can begin.

 

How to Begin a Custom Design...?

In many cases, a new Custom Design is the most appropriate path to a new boat.  The place to start the design process is to first create an owner's "mission statement."  This can be as simple as a paragraph description of the intended vessel, or possibly just a list of the features regarded as being important such as preferences for rig, power, equipment, materials of construction, overall size, accommodations, budget, project timing, and so forth. 

This 'mission statement' becomes our preliminary "Owner's Specification."  This document need not be 'formal' in any way.  It can be sent by fax, email or by letter.  While sketches or design examples are not at all needed, if you've developed preliminary sketches or have come across inspiring examples in your search for 'the right boat' then certainly they can also be included.

After I've reviewed your 'Owner's Spec' and have understood your requirements, I will provide our usual written "Design Proposal" by return email or by letter or fax.  Our Design Proposal is offered free of charge, and implies no obligation whatever. 

When you've reviewed our Design Proposal, if it seems as though a new yacht design may be the best option, then the process can begin.  If you'd like to review an outline of the Custom Design process in greater detail, please review our web page on Custom Yacht Design.  If you would like still more information, please feel free to contact me at your convenience. You may be surprised to discover that creating a new yacht design costs less than you think.  It is by far the most rewarding path to long term boat ownership, and the process itself can be quite a lot of fun.

For information on the cost of developing a new custom yacht design, please see our web article on Design Costs.  For information on the potential cost of new construction, please see our web article on Boat Building Costs.

 

Ordering Study Drawings; Estimating Plans; Building Plans; NC Cutting Files

As noted above, our Stock Designs are offered in four stages, as follows:

  • Study Drawings: These are the first few sheets of the actual Building Plans and include the Sail Plan or Exterior Profile Drawing and the Interior Profile and Arrangement Drawing.
  • Estimating Plans: These consist of the Study Drawings plus the Structural Profile & Arrangement Drawing, the Vessel Specification, and the Equipment List. 
  • Building Plans: All the design drawings and documents necessary for construction of the yacht.
  • NC Cutting Files:  A number of our Stock Designs in metal have been developed for computer cutting of the metal structure by using a computer driven plasma torch or water jet.  In the case of plywood, a computer driven router is used to pre-cut all the structural parts....

To order one or more of the above for any of our designs, please see our Plans List Page.  New Stock Designs are being added at the rate of around three or four vessels per year, so if the current sampling does not provide just the right combination, please check in again...! 

Or... if you'd like to know more about creating a Custom Design to suit your specific requirements, you'll find a thorough description on our Custom Design Page

In any case, please feel free to inquire for more information on any of these options...!

 

Professional Memberships

Royal Institution of Naval Architects Society of Naval Architects and Marine Engineers   Metal Boat Society  American Boat & Yacht Council
Member 
Royal Institution
of Naval Architects 
Member
Society of Naval Architects
and Marine Engineers
Member
Society of Boat
and Yacht Designers
Member
Metal Boat
Society
Member
American Boat
and Yacht Council
 

Please see the Plans List page to review our available Boat Plans.

Michael Kasten
Kasten Marine Design, Inc.
michael@kastenmarine.com
www.kastenmarine.com 
Modern Classic Yacht Design
Washington; Arizona; Sweden

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